This forum... bunch of sticks up yalls asses... and shit that doesn't stink!

I'm sure that these numbers are for constant holding pressure. The numbers for the amount of force applied to the mount point if there was a yank or the jeep rolled off of a rock and was caught by this point or something along those lines would be astronomically higher than that.

Levi
2013 CG JKU

You are correct... I was only able to model varying forces that are applied constant.
 
Can we stop with all the "making sense" by using math and get back to the bullying? That is much more fun. :cheesy:
 
Nice work! Can you model in a second pull? Or a third? That's the problem with a substandard recovery point like this. It may work the first time under very specific circumstances, giving the user a false sense of security. But what happens on the next pull when the bolts have been partially pull through the frame, the tab has been weakened, and the bolt welds have rusted out a bit? Again, this set up is flat-assed scary.

No I can't... I would have to redraw the plates and bolts with an assumed deformation to remodel... It takes too long :yup:

But you are right... any deformation of the plate and/or bolt has drastic effects to the strength
 
HAHA... when your shorts match the height of your bumper, maybe you shouldnt post, superman pose...

Haha, if that's the best you've got, the entertainment I was getting from this thread just fizzled. :9lame: Have a nice day.

Superman out
 
Jay- I think you had a typo- the bolts supplied with the Olympus are NOT 5/8", they are 3/8".
The ones supplied with the evo d ring mounts are 1/2".
Just fyi

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Jay- I think you had a typo- the bolts supplied with the Olympus are NOT 5/8", they are 3/8".
The ones supplied with the evo d ring mounts are 1/2".
Just fyi

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Well, that only makes things worse, much worse, but I'm not planning to redo the model :grayno: I took the "5/8" hex head bolts" as that was the bolt size not the head :crazyeyes:

http://www.olympic4x4products.com/Jeep-D-Ring-Shackle-Mount-for-Rear-of-Wrangler-Jk.html
 
Jay- I think you had a typo- the bolts supplied with the Olympus are NOT 5/8", they are 3/8".
The ones supplied with the evo d ring mounts are 1/2".
Just fyi

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Yeah, that changes things.

Levi
2013 CG JKU
 
I don't normally get into this stuff, but this one just got me. The product just looks dangerous to me so....

1. Not once did I or have I said it was equal.... WTF is wrong with you "dude" did you not read the thread... How many times did I say EVO is better, if not the best... Seriously... HOW MANY TIMES GO COUNT...

I read the thread, and so you say, EVO is better. Is it twice as good? Perhaps that is why it costs more. You know what costs half as much as a dollar? 50 cents.

2. you bet your ass I would... BUT AGAIN, IN ALL CAPS, ITS NOT AS GOOD AS EVO...

Then please, by all means go put it through the tests. Get stuck, and use these D rings. Do it a few times. In different scenarios. Post results.

3. NO, because I have actually seen the product and quality, I seriously doubt you have seen either one.. BUT AGAIN, IN ALL CAPS, ITS NOT AS GOOD AS EVO...

So your alternative is a product that cost less because it is not as good. Gotcha. That is quite the alternative. Sometimes when I want a steak, I think well what the hell, I can have a piece of shit formed into a steak shape for half the price. That sounds awesome.

These things will NOT kill people...

No one said WILL. But watch some videos of bad recoveries, and certainly COULD is true.

And no... I wouldnt stand next to any recovery point based on any product invented... Cause they could ALL fail for any number of reasons...

Your are correct. The all COULD. It's just the chances of this system failing is HIGHER.
 
Full thread 3/8" bolts should have a bearing connection shear resistance of something around 29000 lbf. My guess is that these bolts would give up when the plate bends prior to frame pull through. But like I said, I don't plan to bother with modeling it again.... :yawn37:
 
Hey LanceM, as promised, here is the PM you sent me and my response to you.

wayoflife said:
LanceM said:
Oh I would have invited you to HFs on the 22nd but that is a little far to drive for you...

Sorry tough guy, even if I lived closer, you're clearly too badass for me.

You want to ban me, do it.. Dont threaten me for defending myself, which is what this actually is...

LOL!! I think you've confused me with someone who makes threats. I make promises and being that you're the kind of guy who can't just man up and leave on your own, when I get tired of you, I will send you on your way. Promise. :yup:

Ive was called a dickweed... which wasnt called for...

For the love of god, grow a pair already. :rolleyes2:

I was told what I bought is going to KILL PEOPLE... which it isnt...

What you were told is right, what you have could very well kill someone.

And you have basically allowed that to happen...

Well of course I did. You invited it and now you should have to deal with it.

Have you for one minute put yourself in my shoes and read from page 3 on?

Yeah, I have read from page 4 on. What you should do is stop, take a step back and look at how you really sound to everyone else.

I can honestly say, I do not feel you have not for one instance done that...

Of course you feel this way. You're too busy focused on yourself instead of trying to see things for what they really are.

You have allowed this to happen... And when I say lets go prove if my setup works or not, you mock me for it...

Again, of course I have. Mature people would never allow things to get to this point in the first place. Humble people will take a step back and work things out. Asshats will keep on shooting off their mouths until they go off the deep end like you and everyone else will have a good laugh at your expense.

WOW...

That is really cool Way...

:thankyou: Again, I aim to please ;)

Please keep all future grievances you have with me out in the public for everyone to see.
 
Hey LanceM, as promised, here is the PM you sent me and my response to you.



Please keep all future grievances you have with me out in the public for everyone to see.

I got one of those too...

I still don't understand what he has invested in this product that would cause him to respond this way to the truth of them being very dangerous even to the point of someone dying... I just don't get it.

Levi
2013 CG JKU
 
LanceM said:
Glad we got the badassness cleared up then...

Yup, you are the badass here.

You do make threats... Its very clearly a threat...

So you say. I just did what I said I was going to do and, when I get tired of you, I WILL send you on your way. That is a promise.

ive got a pair... It would be funny to see them slapping you in the face....

Sorry, I don't swing that way. I guess I should have figured you'd be into guys though being that you like that gay ass fascia plate. :idontknow:

Proof other than your really uneducated guess?

Ya got me, I'm totally uneducated when it comes to wheeling and the best I can do is make guesses. If only I were as worldly and wise like you with all kinds of proof as to how strong your Olympic d-ring mounts are.

Exactly how did I invite this nonesense? By getting upset at being told Im going to kill someone?

Ummm, yeah. :idontknow:

Any recovery device could kill someone... Do you support Smitybilt here? Do you think their quality is better than an american based company? Like Olympic?

Ummm, no. Both are JUNK. It's a shame that Olympic is made in the USA albeit by SoCal emigrant workers. :naw:

Which means you havent put yourself in my shoes, you have to support your masses... $$$$

You're so badass, I don't think I could fit into your shoes. As far as my "masses" go, maybe you should spend a bit more time with yours on your forum.

See things for what they are? What are they that I have admitted too?

Ummm, you've been behaving like an asshat? :asshat:

You are basically calling yourself immature as well as me? Ive gone off the deep end huh? ROFL... seems like a couple of your members are doing that (at the very least, as well)...

Like I said before, everyone here is just giving you what you've been dishing out. Don't like it, don't let the door hit you in the ass as you leave. Can't do that, I will show you the door when I tire of you - that is a promise, not a threat. :yup:
 
I got one of those too...

I still don't understand what he has invested in this product that would cause him to respond this way to the truth of them being very dangerous even to the point of someone dying... I just don't get it.

Levi
2013 CG JKU

:cheesy: Really? You really got one too?? What a loser. :crazyeyes:
 
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Edit.... I just realized I wasted my 1000th post on this thread :doh: Man, I had big plans for that post :dont_tell:
 
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