Ordering pr44

MericaMade said:
So I understand this right, are you saying just buy the Rubicon PR44 and swap all parts and that would only set you back about 2500?

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Yes, if you do all the labor yourself to swap your other components. That labor includes installing pinion and carrier bearings and setting up the ring and pinion gear.

I went down this path and it does work, although ultimately the only original thing from my Rubicon front axle that remains is the locker. I upgraded the ball joints (OE and Synergys worn out, now on Dynatracs), axle shafts (to chromoly), and brakes (big brake kit). I had to swap in new knuckles (Rancho) after OE ones cracked, and replace the tie rod (Currie) when my original one got pretzeled beyond straightening.

So all in, I probably spent more than just buying a fully built PR44. But the spend was over time, and I learned a lot in the process (like how to set up gears).


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fiend said:
Yes, if you do all the labor yourself to swap your other components. That labor includes installing pinion and carrier bearings and setting up the ring and pinion gear.

I went down this path and it does work, although ultimately the only original thing from my Rubicon front axle that remains is the locker. I upgraded the ball joints (OE and Synergys worn out, now on Dynatracs), axle shafts (to chromoly), and brakes (big brake kit). I had to swap in new knuckles (Rancho) after OE ones cracked, and replace the tie rod (Currie) when my original one got pretzeled beyond straightening.

So all in, I probably spent more than just buying a fully built PR44. But the spend was over time, and I learned a lot in the process (like how to set up gears).


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I have stock Dana44 and I don’t have the stock brakes, ball joints, tie rod, or hub bearings. But I do have the knuckles, gears, and lockers.


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fiend said:
Yes, if you do all the labor yourself to swap your other components. That labor includes installing pinion and carrier bearings and setting up the ring and pinion gear.

I went down this path and it does work, although ultimately the only original thing from my Rubicon front axle that remains is the locker. I upgraded the ball joints (OE and Synergys worn out, now on Dynatracs), axle shafts (to chromoly), and brakes (big brake kit). I had to swap in new knuckles (Rancho) after OE ones cracked, and replace the tie rod (Currie) when my original one got pretzeled beyond straightening.

So all in, I probably spent more than just buying a fully built PR44. But the spend was over time, and I learned a lot in the process (like how to set up gears).


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Nice . You can help me when the time comes :) I’ll bring beers [emoji482] lol


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Clutch said:
I have stock Dana44 and I don’t have the stock brakes, ball joints, tie rod, or hub bearings. But I do have the knuckles, gears, and lockers.


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Everything will swap from a rubicon 44 housing to a PR44 housing that’s made for the rubicon. Other than any clamp type brackets, since the axle tube is larger.


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wayoflife said:
Yup. Used to be about $1900. Great way to upgrade and save a ton.


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fiend said:
Yes, if you do all the labor yourself to swap your other components. That labor includes installing pinion and carrier bearings and setting up the ring and pinion gear.

I went down this path and it does work, although ultimately the only original thing from my Rubicon front axle that remains is the locker. I upgraded the ball joints (OE and Synergys worn out, now on Dynatracs), axle shafts (to chromoly), and brakes (big brake kit). I had to swap in new knuckles (Rancho) after OE ones cracked, and replace the tie rod (Currie) when my original one got pretzeled beyond straightening.

So all in, I probably spent more than just buying a fully built PR44. But the spend was over time, and I learned a lot in the process (like how to set up gears).


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Oh snaps... thanks guys, great info Fiend.
 
MericaMade said:
Oh snaps... thanks guys, great info Fiend.
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It's all about perspective. Like most people or at least back in the day, I made a lot of upgrades BEFORE bumping up to a PR44 and so, I personally felt it made more sense to swap everything over and save a ton of money. If you've got an unmodified Rubicon 44, buying a complete new axle might be the better way to go.
 
wayoflife said:
It's all about perspective. Like most people or at least back in the day, I made a lot of upgrades BEFORE bumping up to a PR44 and so, I personally felt it made more sense to swap everything over and save a ton of money. If you've got an unmodified Rubicon 44, buying a complete new axle might be the better way to go.
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Thank you for elaborating.

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fiend said:
Everything will swap from a rubicon 44 housing to a PR44 housing that’s made for the rubicon. Other than any clamp type brackets, since the axle tube is larger.


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True, I was implying that it is highly unlikely that you’ll buy the PR44 housing and not make any other axle upgrades. Although a $2500 PR44 housing is a good deal, if you want to “buy once cry once”, it may not the best way to go.


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Clutch said:
True, I was implying that it is highly unlikely that you’ll buy the PR44 housing and not make any other axle upgrades. Although a $2500 PR44 housing is a good deal, if you want to “buy once cry once”, it may not the best way to go.


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As Eddie suggested, it’s a good approach if you’ve already made some upgrades to your stock 44. Chromoly shafts and big brakes, for example. You can swap those parts over to the PR44 housing. It’s a good way to spread some of the expense over time and get full value from (ie, wear out) your stock parts before upgrading.


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fiend said:
As Eddie suggested, it’s a good approach if you’ve already made some upgrades to your stock 44. Chromoly shafts and big brakes, for example. You can swap those parts over to the PR44 housing. It’s a good way to spread some of the expense over time and get full value from (ie, wear out) your stock parts before upgrading.


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I think the benefit of spreading out the expense over years is the biggest benefit. Not to mention if 37” tires are your end-game that’s all that is needed.


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