Fir-na-tine
Caught the Bug
Nope..
Just being a sarcastic dikk. Spent to much time on pirates i guess
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Sounds legit
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~Woodrow~
Wayalife is a joke and you clearly don't understand the true concept of Jeeping
- Thread starter CrunchyPeanutbutter
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Sounds legit
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~Woodrow~
JAGS
Hooked
If you have to ask, you couldn't afford it. Or maybe that was for Jeep parts only? :thinking:
catahoula
Caught the Bug
Very nice!
computeruser6
New member
If you would like some reason perhaps I can give you some. You believe that the Dana 30 off-road use with 37" tires. Here's what the Dana Corporation has to say about the strength of the Dana 44 and Dana 60 rear axles. Some people may say use sleeves and gussets and/or weld a truss on, those components will help the housing some but do nothing to strengthen other components such as: carrier bearings, pinion bearings, wheel bearings, the ring and pinion, and the carrier. For making the tubes stronger a larger O.D. tube will have the best effect and have the best strength to weight ratio. Some would say to add chromoly shafts to a Dana 30, but the stock shafts are more ductile and will bend and flex more instead of transferring more shock loading to the ring, pinion, and carrier.
Using large diameter and heavy tires with low backspace wheels will have detrimental effects on wheel bearings. An unbalanced load will cause excessive and uneven bearing wear. The problems with using larger tires are not just the weight, but the larger diameter will cause more centripetal force to be generated since the radius is larger. Twenty or thirty pounds may not seem like much of a mass increase, but that mass has a much larger effect when it's quickly rotating. In the case of the stock front wheel bearing, the bearing itself cannot be inspected or pulled apart without essentially destroying it. It is possible that there may be some play in the bearing or that a front wheel speed sensor may give an implausible wheel speed signal, or the bearing could just give up without much warning. I wouldn't say that it's weak, it simply was never meant to withstand such use.
I've had a rear pinion bearing give up on me. The bearing was heavily pitted and had a lot of play in it. I also have had a set 10 wheel bearing fail on me in the rear axle. The bearing seized up and generated enough heat to burn my finger when I touched the hub flange and caused the axle seal to fail. I ran LT285/75R-17 Toyo M/T's weighing in at 71 lbs for about 24,000 miles when the failures occured. Maybe I pushed the Jeep too hard, maybe Royal Purple gear oil sucks at lubricating, perhaps I'm just blessed like that? Whatever the case may be I would say it's unreasonable to expect a Dana 30 to withstand 37" tires off-road. Here's an example of a man who tried 37" tires on a Dana 30, started to build up bigger axles, and then blew up his Dana 30 ring and pinion. Whether it's on this forum or others people will disagree about what a good axle for large tires is. Peanutbutter, could you explain why you believe a Dana 30 is adequate for 37" tires? You like reason, right? Do you have any documentation, analysis, or experience to back up what you're saying?
It is very possible for axle components pushed beyond design limits to fail, and the person doing such to their vehicle should understand possible outcomes. Any cost analysis should include the possibility of recovery costs, towing costs, that the dealer probably might not warranty a Dana 30 with a truss welded to it running 37" tires, and any applicable repair bills, especially if the individual is not doing their own labor. Going cheap is not always cheap in the end.
It's not as if Wayalife is the only place that would preferentially promote certain products. What do you think all the other forums run off of, goodwill and charity? You claim to like reason, can you explain why a better Dana 44 housing is overkill for 99.95% of Jeep owners? I've posted up about Solid Axle before and I'm still here. It's not like Dynatrac is the only manufacturer of better housings and assemblies. Dana makes what they call "Ultimate Dana 60's" meant for severe off-road abuse, Solid Axle makes good assemblies, and of course Dynatrac does also. I assure you Peanutbutter that I'm not drinking any cool-aid and would be interested in any detailed explanations you have as to why the Dana 30 could withstand off-road use with 37" tires.
It's a shame you had to waste your time writing Crunchybutt a novel to explain real life to him, but it appears Elvis has already left the building.
pastorwug
New member
Hey wait, I kind of liked Elvis! :clap2:
computeruser6
New member
He could always come back, I have patience. It seems like Peanutbutter killed the OP's original intent for the thread so he should get something out of it.
He did..CrunchyButt was awarded his own thread, that's how it works in order to not pollute the original thread.
computeruser6
New member
I should have posted the explanation there then I guess. I guess I could just copy and paste most of what I typed up. I don't feel like typing up anything new now.
CrunchyPeanutbutter
New member
Looking for a Rubi tcase, any available y 9/14?
Need a t case
Need a t case
thardy
Banned
Gotta love when someone has their own thread trash talking the forum almost 2 years ago and pop back in for tcase.
cozdude
Guy with a Red 2-Door
Welcome back! Good to see you back in your own thread instead of stinking up the rest of the forum
notnalc68
That dude from Mississippi
jesse3638
Hooked
There are a lot of old members in that thread...haha.
