PSC ram assist

xflstl said:
True, you certainly could f*** it up and be out a steering box... Even if you do it right, the one drawback is there is no warranty.
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In all fairness, having a warranty doesn't mean shit when you're steering system fails on you while you're on the edge of a cliff that's a hundred miles away from the nearest town.
 
wayoflife said:
LOL!! Yeah, I know. In fact, I was going to point out all the stuff you had on YOUR Jeep that I thought was "insanely expensive" but thought that you might take it the wrong way. That's why I pointed out things on my Jeep.



Kind of like how I saved upwards of $800 trimming my factory fenders instead of buying PSC tube fenders. Took a couple of hours of work but saving $800 for a ton of folks means they can forward that cash to other upgrades they might really need sooner rather than having to wait months to save up. Just putting things into perspective.
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Very true. .... lol... however tube fenders are one of the last things I regret on my Jeep. There's a long list of other things that I ended up wasting money on that would come before those...
And that jeep has a PSC system..

The Jeep I'm working on now is more of a budget build. And it also has Factory fenders that have been trimmed.. :)
 
wayoflife said:
I suppose it's all relative. Compared to the LS I have installed or the ProRock 60 front axle, ProRock 80 rear axle or Atlas transfer case, the ATX Chamber Pro II wheels, 40" Toyo MT's, etc, etc, $2k for a steering system doesn't seem like a whole lot to me.
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Agreed. When stepping up to 37+ the added cost of the steering overhaul should be budgeted in. Its a vehicle that carries you in off camber and high speed situations, the steering system isn't something that should be a "lowest bid" type item.

Eddie, do you any recommendations for what type of cooler works best for the steering assist?
 
It's also worth mentioning the "Redneck Ram" from West Texas Off Road. Considerably cheaper than the PSC, and you still send off your steering box for them to professionally tap. I'm not affiliated with them in any way I just know a lot of folks out here opt to go with theirs for the cost savings while the fittings/etc are all still solid quality.
 
USMMA11NC said:
Agreed. When stepping up to 37+ the added cost of the steering overhaul should be budgeted in. Its a vehicle that carries you in off camber and high speed situations, the steering system isn't something that should be a "lowest bid" type item.

Eddie, do you any recommendations for what type of cooler works best for the steering assist?
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We're just running what PSC offered and it seems to work well.

iRonin said:
It's also worth mentioning the "Redneck Ram" from West Texas Off Road. Considerably cheaper than the PSC, and you still send off your steering box for them to professionally tap. I'm not affiliated with them in any way I just know a lot of folks out here opt to go with theirs for the cost savings while the fittings/etc are all still solid quality.
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eh, I had a guy with the Redneck Ram join us on the Rubicon a couple of years back and it took a crap about half way through the trail. Needless to say, I wasn't too impressed with it but then, I haven't seen any ram kit to be perfect.
 
iRonin said:
It's also worth mentioning the "Redneck Ram" from West Texas Off Road. Considerably cheaper than the PSC, and you still send off your steering box for them to professionally tap. I'm not affiliated with them in any way I just know a lot of folks out here opt to go with theirs for the cost savings while the fittings/etc are all still solid quality.
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I have no first hand knowledge of the Redneck Ram system, so I can't comment on them, but I ordered my setup from Trail Jeeps and they do a core swap
with PSC. My system was considerably less when done this way when compared to prices you see on the web.
 
Hey guys. I'm curious how the pcs system feels driving down the hwy. I was cruising their website a while back and noticed there's two different systems for a jk. One that's not recommend for on road use. I'm assuming that one probably has too much assist for hwy speeds.
So I guess I'm curious how their recommended on/off road system handles the hwy. Any difference from the factory feel?
 
Journeyman said:
Hey guys. I'm curious how the pcs system feels driving down the hwy. I was cruising their website a while back and noticed there's two different systems for a jk. One that's not recommend for on road use. I'm assuming that one probably has too much assist for hwy speeds.
So I guess I'm curious how their recommended on/off road system handles the hwy. Any difference from the factory feel?
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I've found it to be a significant improvement with the larger tires. The stock system had more play in the wheel. With the PSC installed it doesn't hunt as much & feels much more stable
and the wheel is more responsive. The only thing a little different I've found is at low speeds (like maneuvering into a tight parking lot space) if you try to steer too fast it will resist your input just a little. Its not a kickback or anything, more of a momentary slowness. It's nothing prohibitive, just something I've noticed.

Edit: I drive at 70mph with one hand on the wheel with ease now.
 
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Ddays said:
I've found it to be a significant improvement with the larger tires. The stock system had more play in the wheel. With the PSC installed it doesn't hunt as much & feels much more stable
and the wheel is more responsive. The only thing a little different I've found is at low speeds (like maneuvering into a tight parking lot space) if you try to steer too fast it will resist your input just a little. Its not a kickback or anything, more of a momentary slowness. It's nothing prohibitive, just something I've noticed.

Edit: I drive at 70mph with one hand on the wheel with ease now.
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thread jack, with nothing to add, but I'm curious; does it help mitigate radial pull at all?
 
DWiggles said:
thread jack, with nothing to add, but I'm curious; does it help mitigate radial pull at all?
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I honestly can't answer that as I've never experienced the radial pull. I can say that this system along with the Cooper STT Pros I just put on makes for a surprisingly
good highway ride. If these hold up reasonably well long term these may be the next hot tire on the market. Eddie has had a lot of good things to say about his set and he's
been offroad a lot with them. He'd be better suited to answer this question than I as I think I remember him saying somewhere that his Nitto's had some radial pull??
 
Journeyman said:
Hey guys. I'm curious how the pcs system feels driving down the hwy. I was cruising their website a while back and noticed there's two different systems for a jk. One that's not recommend for on road use. I'm assuming that one probably has too much assist for hwy speeds.
So I guess I'm curious how their recommended on/off road system handles the hwy. Any difference from the factory feel?
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Depends on who's doing the driving. For Cindy and I, we love how easy it is to drive - literally, we can steer with just one finger. In fact, that's really how it should be driven - that as opposed to having to man handle the steering wheel. Of course, others find it to be too sensitive but really, I find that everyone gets used to it.

DWiggles said:
thread jack, with nothing to add, but I'm curious; does it help mitigate radial pull at all?
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No. If you're running something like a set of Trail Grapplers, it won't help at all. In some cases, if you don't have the right pump setup, a ram can actually cause a pull to one side.
 
wayoflife said:
Depends on who's doing the driving. For Cindy and I, we love how easy it is to drive - literally, we can steer with just one finger. In fact, that's really how it should be driven - that as opposed to having to man handle the steering wheel. Of course, others find it to be too sensitive but really, I find that everyone gets used to it.
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Just to clarify are you running the "Factory Feel" or the "Reduced Effort" valving on your setup?
 
I really need to stop being lazy and get the rest of the parts I need to finish my kit as I only have a delpi psc sterring box sitting in my garage.
 
just an extra tip if you want the steering assist to function as smoothly as possible, you'll want to have a top mount drag link installed if you have a lift and your drag link and track bar are not parallel.

I had mine installed and the installer did not do the top mount drag link (though I was charged for top mount drag link) and I thought I had made a huge mistake as nothing was smooth about the steering as I had read about and tested in other Jeeps.

Once I corrected several things with the setup (the installer just did shitty work) and installed a top mount drag link the steering is 1 finger smooth. I have the stock feel setup and couldn't be happier.

while you can do a DIY, most my friends who have gone the DIY route ended spending a lot of time and almost as much money as just buying something like the PSC kit where it's made to install and go.
 
wayoflife said:
Depends on who's doing the driving. For Cindy and I, we love how easy it is to drive - literally, we can steer with just one finger. In fact, that's really how it should be driven - that as opposed to having to man handle the steering wheel. Of course, others find it to be too sensitive but really, I find that everyone gets used to it.
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I was so used to "man handling" mine running my heavy ans wide toyo 37s. I had the psc system installed about a month ago before moab. First couple days I felt it was twitchy and called the installer to see which system he installed. His exact words I believe were "You are just used to shitty steering. Stop over thinking it and drive with two fingers" Did that and within a couple hours never felt twitchy again. It's one of those mods I now wonder why I waited so long to do!

All of my friends have self ported, redneck, etc. They all seem to get the job done but all have issues. Leaking joints, having to Rev at idle to get enough pressure from stock pump, overheating, etc. They tease me regularly on the money I've spend on prorocks, psc etc. Well in moab where I had no issues and they had failed lockers, failed steering, broken this and that on same trails I explained why I buy quality parts. You get what u pay for in the long run.
 
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