New Toyo Open Country R/T Pro tire

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LVMohave

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Looks like the new Toyo is a all around great tire. I currently have Nitto 38 Ridge Grapplers on 17" KMC wheels which are a good tire. They aren't very good in wet weather or snow- which I have encountered both. To be fair I do not encounter bad weather unless I go outside of Vegas where I live. If we want to travel like Utah and the mountains I am NOT comfortable with my Nitto's in wet weather or snow. - thus why I'm asking.

I believe all 40" tires on 17" wheels are minimum 13.5" wide. (not 100% sure on that but a tire search lookup doesnt show any 40" tires at 12.5" wide- except the new Toyo) My question is the new R/T Pro 40" tire is 12.5" which seems "thin" to me for a 40" tire. My Nitto's are 12.5" wide and sometimes look a tiny bit thin, but nothing to bother me, but a 12.5" wide 40" tire seems skinny? Thoughts?
 
LVMohave said:
Looks like the new Toyo is a all around great tire. I currently have Nitto 38 Ridge Grapplers on 17" KMC wheels which are a good tire. They aren't very good in wet weather or snow- which I have encountered both. To be fair I do not encounter bad weather unless I go outside of Vegas where I live. If we want to travel like Utah and the mountains I am NOT comfortable with my Nitto's in wet weather or snow. - thus why I'm asking.

I believe all 40" tires on 17" wheels are minimum 13.5" wide. (not 100% sure on that but a tire search lookup doesnt show any 40" tires at 12.5" wide- except the new Toyo) My question is the new R/T Pro 40" tire is 12.5" which seems "thin" to me for a 40" tire. My Nitto's are 12.5" wide and sometimes look a tiny bit thin, but nothing to bother me, but a 12.5" wide 40" tire seems skinny? Thoughts?
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Tall and skinny..... agreed. My o2.
 
LVMohave said:
Looks like the new Toyo is a all around great tire. I currently have Nitto 38 Ridge Grapplers on 17" KMC wheels which are a good tire. They aren't very good in wet weather or snow- which I have encountered both. To be fair I do not encounter bad weather unless I go outside of Vegas where I live. If we want to travel like Utah and the mountains I am NOT comfortable with my Nitto's in wet weather or snow. - thus why I'm asking.

I believe all 40" tires on 17" wheels are minimum 13.5" wide. (not 100% sure on that but a tire search lookup doesnt show any 40" tires at 12.5" wide- except the new Toyo) My question is the new R/T Pro 40" tire is 12.5" which seems "thin" to me for a 40" tire. My Nitto's are 12.5" wide and sometimes look a tiny bit thin, but nothing to bother me, but a 12.5" wide 40" tire seems skinny? Thoughts?
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Why is appearance so important to you?
 
LVMohave said:
Looks like the new Toyo is a all around great tire.
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Just out of curiosity, how did you come to this conclusion?
LVMohave said:
I currently have Nitto 38 Ridge Grapplers on 17" KMC wheels which are a good tire. They aren't very good in wet weather or snow- which I have encountered both. To be fair I do not encounter bad weather unless I go outside of Vegas where I live. If we want to travel like Utah and the mountains I am NOT comfortable with my Nitto's in wet weather or snow. - thus why I'm asking.
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From your personal experience and just for comparison sake, what tire would you say is a good tire in wet weather or snow?
LVMohave said:
I believe all 40" tires on 17" wheels are minimum 13.5" wide. (not 100% sure on that but a tire search lookup doesnt show any 40" tires at 12.5" wide- except the new Toyo) My question is the new R/T Pro 40" tire is 12.5" which seems "thin" to me for a 40" tire. My Nitto's are 12.5" wide and sometimes look a tiny bit thin, but nothing to bother me, but a 12.5" wide 40" tire seems skinny? Thoughts?
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Funny thing is, pizza cutters like this is all the rage on social media these days and tire manufacturers are just trying to give their customers what they're wanting.
 
My own experience with Ridge Grapplers on wet streets is that they seem to work well on the highways and rural roads (even under most severe "100 year storm" white knuckle conditions), but not so well on high traffic urban roads which are much more likely to have some oil added to the water.

I was still able to make it up our long and steep concrete driveway with at least 1" of fresh snow on top.

But it did seem that the factory BFG KO2s felt somewhat safer on snow.
 
Toyo would had to have changed a LOT about the RT for me to get back into one.

They wore out in 20,000 miles of strictly on road use. They wore funny, 2 out of the 5 had severe cupping, the other 3 wore oddly across the tread pattern.

I know they supposedly have a new compound and supposedly are a better tire. But that's a lot of money to invest on a maybe.
 
wayoflife said:
Just out of curiosity, how did you come to this conclusion?

From your personal experience and just for comparison sake, what tire would you say is a good tire in wet weather or snow?

Funny thing is, pizza cutters like this is all the rage on social media these days and tire manufacturers are just trying to give their customers what they're wanting.
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I've read some good reviews and youtube reviews about the new Toyos. I have a friend back in NY who has them on his Gladiator and loves them. I can only tell you from MY own experience what I believe is a good tire or not from personally using them. I previously had BFG KM3 and they were great tires, zero issues. I also had Gladiators and they just couldn't balance after a few sets. I honestly do not know why Ridge Grapplers have a decent wet rating......I can pull out of the hand car wash with wet tires and slip all over the place - spin the tires like Im at a drag strip. . When it rains here in Vegas, I have to drive extra careful because they slip pretty easily.

I couldnt tell you what tire is good in rain and snow since I rarely encounter those conditions. I think my Nitto 38's look more like a pizza cutter and the new Toyo 40" must look really (possibly oddly thin)
 
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