WFTW Retraction

Bandit

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I think some people on here need to check their 6 on their statements about Wheelers For The Wounded. WFTW (at least the Texas Chapter) is a 501c3 and does pretty cool stuff for Wounded warriors here in S Texas. I attended one of their events where we took wounded soldiers in rehab and in some cases their families on a trail run. The executive board are all volunteers and other than a pretty embroidered shirt, they receive no compensation for their time. I looked up their charity statement thing (can't remember the actual term) and it is on the level, no wasteful spending and executive salaries. I was cautious after the douchebaggery of wounded warrior project of any new group that "helps vets" outside my own VFW and American Legion Posts (Dont even trust state and national legion and vfw that much)


I don't know about this Robert Basil guy (isn't that a seasoning?) but Jason of WFTW is a stand up guy (I am only acquainted, but get on good authority testimony of his character) It is pretty Dickish to accuse someone of or call him a "scam artist" without good cause and proof. If I am to be booted from the forum, as that seems to be all the rage of the cool kids, meh so be it, I'd rather go pound sand.
 
Sharkey

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Welcome to Wayalife Bandit. Perhaps if you slowed down the TA a bit and got off of Frog long enough to read the entire thread, you would know that nobody accused Basil of anything until he refused to explain the nature of his charitable organization.
 
wayoflife

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Bandit said:
I think some people on here need to check their 6 on their statements about Wheelers For The Wounded. WFTW (at least the Texas Chapter) is a 501c3 and does pretty cool stuff for Wounded warriors here in S Texas. I attended one of their events where we took wounded soldiers in rehab and in some cases their families on a trail run. The executive board are all volunteers and other than a pretty embroidered shirt, they receive no compensation for their time. I looked up their charity statement thing (can't remember the actual term) and it is on the level, no wasteful spending and executive salaries. I was cautious after the douchebaggery of wounded warrior project of any new group that "helps vets" outside my own VFW and American Legion Posts (Dont even trust state and national legion and vfw that much)


I don't know about this Robert Basil guy (isn't that a seasoning?) but Jason of WFTW is a stand up guy (I am only acquainted, but get on good authority testimony of his character) It is pretty Dickish to accuse someone of or call him a "scam artist" without good cause and proof. If I am to be booted from the forum, as that seems to be all the rage of the cool kids, meh so be it, I'd rather go pound sand.
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Don't know a thing about the "Texas Chapter" of this operation but it would appear that you know a very different Jason Havlik than I know. If he's really a stand up guy with a 501(c)3, I say prove it! I've tried asking him to prove as much and he just tried to burn me just like this Robert Basil guy. Oh, and if it helps, here is his website:

http://www.wheelersforthewounded.com/index.htm

Good luck to you troll.
 
MTG

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I couldn't quite see my 6 but my 5 and 7 are pretty good. Maybe I need to stretch a bit? :idontknow:

Edit: BTW- what is retration?
 
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CrunchyPeanutbutter

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Wow, that took a while to get thru. Lotsa hate going on over something small like a windshield banner.

I do have to agree with a previous poster on the WFTW being a good cause.

I'm glad I took the time to look at both sides of the coin as I think many who are going off half cocked have failed to do. It is shady the way there have been changes to Basils website. As for him serving at a time when there was no armed conflict, remember Desert Shield/Desert Storm?

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wayoflife

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Just did a search for Wheeler for the Wounded on the IRS website and for some reason, I still can't find them listed as a Charitable Organization. Perhaps you can provide an EIN so that I can use it to look them up? :idontknow:
 
wayoflife

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CrunchyPeanutbutter said:
I do have to agree with a previous poster on the WFTW being a good cause.
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Again, I can't speak for what guys involved with this group are doing in Texas but, you've got to know that back in 2008, I busted Jason Havlik for doing pretty much the same thing as Robert Basil. Back then, he was banned for soliciting his organization as well as fundraiser items associate with it and without obtaining permission to do so first as our rules required. At the time, I never knew who he was or that he was even a member here until one of our moderators temporarily deleted one of his solicitations pending review and this apparently caused him to react rather emotionally and irrationally. In my experience, the only people who react in this manner are people who have something to hide just like what we saw with Robert. Of course, upon future investigation, I had found that his organization is NOT in fact a 501(c)(3) organization but rather, has attempted to piggy-back it on another "not-for-profit" organization called U.S. Veterans Matter. Upon further investigation, I also found that U.S. Veterans Matter could not be found on any of the following reputable non-profit website checks including the IRS:

http://us.bbb.org/WWWRoot/SitePage.a...1-1ace558f9082

http://www.irs.gov/charities/article...=96136,00.html

http://www.guidestar.org/

http://www.charitynavigator.org/

Likewise, looking closely at U.S. Veterans Matter, I found the following:
-- NO current or past events listed
-- NO programs listed
-- NO purpose or goals listed
-- NO sponsors listed
-- NO proof of what they've done to help anyone
-- NO proof of what they are doing now

In the end, what I have found is plenty of talk, a built up Jeep and a guy that goes around the country wheeling it compliments of people paying him to do so. This is to say nothing of the fact that he ended up selling his Jeep for personal profit but hey, what do I know.

Of course, things may have changed since then but, after doing a quick search, I still can't find any proof of them being a legitimate 501(c)3. If you can, you should post it up.

http://www.jk-forum.com/forums/south-49/effort-answer-some-questions-50008/#b
 
CrunchyPeanutbutter

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wayoflife said:
Again, I can't speak for what guys involved with this group are doing in Texas but, you've got to know that back in 2008, I busted Jason Havlik for doing pretty much the same thing as Robert Basil. Back then, he was banned for soliciting his organization as well as fundraiser items associate with it and without obtaining permission to do so first as our rules required. At the time, I never knew who he was or that he was even a member here until one of our moderators temporarily deleted one of his solicitations pending review and this apparently caused him to react rather emotionally and irrationally. In my experience, the only people who react in this manner are people who have something to hide just like what we saw with Robert. Of course, upon future investigation, I had found that his organization is NOT in fact a 501(c)(3) organization but rather, has attempted to piggy-back it on another "not-for-profit" organization called U.S. Veterans Matter. Upon further investigation, I also found that U.S. Veterans Matter could not be found on any of the following reputable non-profit website checks including the IRS:

http://us.bbb.org/WWWRoot/SitePage.a...1-1ace558f9082

http://www.irs.gov/charities/article...=96136,00.html

http://www.guidestar.org/

http://www.charitynavigator.org/

Likewise, looking closely at U.S. Veterans Matter, I found the following:
-- NO current or past events listed
-- NO programs listed
-- NO purpose or goals listed
-- NO sponsors listed
-- NO proof of what they've done to help anyone
-- NO proof of what they are doing now

In the end, what I have found is plenty of talk, a built up Jeep and a guy that goes around the country wheeling it compliments of people paying him to do so. This is to say nothing of the fact that he ended up selling his Jeep for personal profit but hey, what do I know.

Of course, things may have changed since then but, after doing a quick search, I still can't find any proof of them being a legitimate 501(c)3. If you can, you should post it up.

http://www.jk-forum.com/forums/south-49/effort-answer-some-questions-50008/#b
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CrunchyPeanutbutter

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wayoflife said:
Just did a search for Wheeler for the Wounded on the IRS website and for some reason, I still can't find them listed as a Charitable Organization. Perhaps you can provide an EIN so that I can use it to look them up? :idontknow:
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It's there if you truly do care to look!

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How about that retraction now? Maybe on that troll statement as well! Not all of us are trying to be argumentative! Maybe if some here would realize that retractions wouldn't be called for!
 
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wayoflife

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CrunchyPeanutbutter said:
How about that retraction now? Maybe on that troll statement as well! Not all of us are trying to be argumentative! Maybe if some here would realize that retractions wouldn't be called for!
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Sorry, my comments regarding "WFTW" still stands as I still have seen ZERO proof that Jason Havlik and his so called charity are anything but legit. I never specifically called out "WFTW-SA" as I didn't even know they existed and based on what can be proven, they appear to be a legit operation.
 
Armydog

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wayoflife said:
Sorry, my comments regarding "WFTW" still stands as I still have seen ZERO proof that Jason Havlik and his so called charity are anything but legit. I never specifically called out "WFTW-SA" as I didn't even know they existed and based on what can be proven, they appear to be a legit operation.
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The WFTW-SA seems legit. BUT WWP is legit and well known and nation-wide. Good work to the San Antonio guys, but guess where my donation dollars gave and continue to go?


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Armydog

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Armydog said:
The WFTW-SA seems legit. BUT WWP is legit and well known and nation-wide. Good work to the San Antonio guys, but guess where my donation dollars gave and continue to go?


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Typo.... went and continue to go.


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Bandit

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wayoflife said:
Don't know a thing about the "Texas Chapter" of this operation but it would appear that you know a very different Jason Havlik than I know. If he's really a stand up guy with a 501(c)3, I say prove it! I've tried asking him to prove as much and he just tried to burn me just like this Robert Basil guy. Oh, and if it helps, here is his website:

http://www.wheelersforthewounded.com/index.htm

Good luck to you troll.
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So discussion of a subject gets me troll status?

And my bad to the spelling error in retracted. Sheesh
 
Bandit

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wayoflife said:
Don't know a thing about the "Texas Chapter" of this operation but it would appear that you know a very different Jason Havlik than I know. If he's really a stand up guy with a 501(c)3, I say prove it! I've tried asking him to prove as much and he just tried to burn me just like this Robert Basil guy. Oh, and if it helps, here is his website:

http://www.wheelersforthewounded.com/index.htm

Good luck to you troll.
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My understanding of Havlik is that the current organization of WFTW (Texas) is the genesis of what he attempted to start, now properly organized and classified in IRS as a 501c3. I'll check with the peeps at WFTW and make sure I haven't crossed wires and we are discussing same person.

As for WWP, merely my opinion of them based of salaries of executives, media and advertising that makes me wonder if they are in the business of helping soldiers or making tv commercials. If you wanna drop coin on them cause their well known, your money.
 
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