Ddays
Hooked
^^ I was under the impression that TJ's benefitted more with a long arm kit than the JK's because of this.
Sold on Long Arms...until I talked to ORE
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^^ I was under the impression that TJ's benefitted more with a long arm kit than the JK's because of this.
WJCO
Meme King
Moral of the story: Don't to brake work in the hood or your wheels will get 'jacked.'
cozdude
Guy with a Red 2-Door
Yup that is my understanding of it all as well.
I am far from an expert, so will not argue. I am pretty sure that Drew can advise on what suspension jacking forces are. A lot of good info around but Wikipedia helps too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_(vehicle)#Jacking_forces
As I stated, long arms will provide you more wheel travel and articulation off-road with the proper geometry. If you do not care about proper geometry on or off road, your travel will be limited only by your shock length (or limit straps), or heck your brake lines
Example, same length shocks, on a short and long arm, however notice that the travel curve will be impacted. I.e. from Hammerhead's post:
source http://www.4wd.com/jeep-lift-kits/long-vs-short-arm.aspx
I am not saying that a long or short arm is needed or will benefit everyone, specially on a JK. I myself am debating what to do next suspension wise, and will probably stick to my current setup when doing my tons, as the ride quality and travel has been great for my daily driving and wheeling style.
As I stated, long arms will provide you more wheel travel and articulation off-road with the proper geometry. If you do not care about proper geometry on or off road, your travel will be limited only by your shock length (or limit straps), or heck your brake lines
Example, same length shocks, on a short and long arm, however notice that the travel curve will be impacted. I.e. from Hammerhead's post:
source http://www.4wd.com/jeep-lift-kits/long-vs-short-arm.aspx
I am not saying that a long or short arm is needed or will benefit everyone, specially on a JK. I myself am debating what to do next suspension wise, and will probably stick to my current setup when doing my tons, as the ride quality and travel has been great for my daily driving and wheeling style.
Mike_JK_Houston_711
New member
Yea, that makes sense. And now that I think about it really, I see much more TJ's with long arms than JK's.
Hammmerhead
Member
I think its mainly about how the longer arm is smoother with the movement and in fast, hard cycles their will be more vertical gravity involved. On a shorter arm or mid arm there will be more horizontal gravity which would be absorbed by the rear end of the arm bracket and the frame itself which gives the slightly harder ride. If all of this is true a long arm setup will go over an obstacle with less force (or pedal) needed than a short arm setup.
Mike_JK_Houston_711
New member
I am far from an expert, so will not argue. I am pretty sure that Drew can advise on what suspension jacking forces are. A lot of good info around but Wikipedia helps too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_(vehicle)#Jacking_forces
As I stated, long arms will provide you more wheel travel and articulation off-road with the proper geometry. If you do not care about proper geometry on or off road, your travel will be limited only by your shock length (or limit straps), or heck your brake lines
source http://www.4wd.com/jeep-lift-kits/long-vs-short-arm.aspx
I am not saying that a long or short arm is needed or will benefit everyone, specially on a JK. I myself am debating what to do next suspension wise, and will probably stick to my current setup when doing my tons, as the ride quality and travel has been great for my daily driving and wheeling style.
Thanks for the info. Definitely things to think about for the future...right now, like you, I'll stick with my stock arms and adj front lowers on my JK and do coilovers. But I do understand that long arms (on any vehicle) is the ultimate ride...just not sure I need that for what I'll be doing. Although I do have plans on applying to future JKX's, so maybe long arms later :rock:
Mike_JK_Houston_711
New member
LOL. Looks like the thieves decided to jack only 2 wheels before giving up though.
Ummm, you install long arms to correct your geometry after installing a tall enough lift or as you put it, to give you "proper geometry". The length of your shocks are the ultimate limiting factor of wheel travel/articulation.
piginajeep
The Original Smartass
I've heard some really stupid shit today( I work in the oilfield, if that tells you anything)
This tops it, congrats.
This tops it, congrats.
10frank9
Web Wheeler
His long arms are special and they give his jeep and shocks magical travel. Each long arm kit comes with a bag of magical travel fairy dust. Sprinkle sprinkle.
Elaborate?
Mike_JK_Houston_711
New member
I ultimately want my jeep to fly...literally seek flight and hover. Is this the way, the fairy dust? Does EVO make some? LOL
Exodus 4x4
New member
No need to go to EVO for that, you can source that locally in Montrose.
Mike_JK_Houston_711
New member
Haha, so true. You can find a little bit of everything on Westheimer.
Granite_head - Do you live in the Montrose area?
Exodus 4x4
New member
Lol, I can't tell if that's a joke or not.
No sir, I live in downtown Austin with my wife (a naturally occurring female) and newborn son. I do however have a step brother that last I heard lives in that area. We don't associate much since we don't have much in common, if you know what I mean.
Mike_JK_Houston_711
New member
LOL. I now see what you are referring to, and makes much more sense in context with the fairy dust comment. My wife and I live in rice military in houston, but we frequent the montrose area for the food and bars. "Naturally occurring female" HAHA, that was good man.
Crystaliner
Doesn't know shit about wheeling
Hmmm...ORE changed out /installed just the front lower arms on my Evo coils on 37s. Might even come with the kit.
Thought it was for correction to the geometry front end.
Drew is Great...No Bullshit!!!!!! Can't for the life of me understand why I'm constantly try to justify calling ORE to make an appointment for more mods.