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T&ERun

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If I stall on a decent hill I quickly loose braking power until I get the Jeep started again. I've had a few scary moments. I have a 2007 JKU with 37s and a manual tranny. I know I shouldn't push the clutch in being in 4low, but I haven't got out of the habit yet. Do you guys have this problem also? I was thinking of upgrading to larger rotors and possibly larger front calipers, but still trying to decide what to do. Will upgrading to larger brakes even help in this situation (when the Jeep stalls and the pedal is stiff until you get it started back up)? Any help much appreciated as it's my top priority right now before I hurt someone or my Jeep rolling down a hill backwards. Thanks.
 
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T&ERun said:
If I stall on a decent hill I quickly loose braking power until I get the Jeep started again. I've had a few scary moments. I have a 2007 JKU with 37s and a manual tranny. I know I shouldn't push the clutch in being in 4low, but I haven't got out of the habit yet. Do you guys have this problem also? I was thinking of upgrading to larger rotors and possibly larger front calipers, but still trying to decide what to do. I've been researching it and have read that there is some kind of ABS kill switch mod. How does it help for off road and would it help in this situation? I know how ABS works and can't see how it would help offroad by disabling it. Maybe it's not worth doing. Please explain. Also, will upgrading to larger brakes even help in this situation (when the Jeep stalls and the pedal is stiff until you get it started back up)? Any help much appreciated as it's my top priority right now before I hurt someone or my Jeep rolling down a hill backwards. Thanks.
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Don't stall. The brakes are vacuum powered. No vacuum=weak brakes.
 
That's part of having power brakes/ power steering.. They are great until the motor dies...

If I was in that situation, with the engine stalled, I would let the clutch back out so the engine compression holds the jeep while you get yourself situated.
 
Thanks for the info guys. Yes, I need to train myself to not push in the clutch. Question though, would upgrading the brakes help hold the Jeep better when stalling and the clutch is pushed in? I would assume it would, but I don't want to spend $1000 to find out it hasn't helped my problem. Has anyone upgraded their brakes already that can comment on if they help or not when stalled.
 
T&ERun said:
Thanks for the info guys. Yes, I need to train myself to not push in the clutch. Question though, would upgrading the brakes help hold the Jeep better when stalling and the clutch is pushed in? I would assume it would, but I don't want to spend $1000 to find out it hasn't helped my problem. Has anyone upgraded their brakes already that can comment on if they help or not when stalled.
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No it will not help. :naw: It has nothing to do with how big your brakes are. Just try not to stall in order to keep brakes working. I have been where you are now cause i have a manual, too. Practice and you will be fine. Moreover you will find out that with a manual you can do much more accurate wheelin.:beer: You just need to get used to it. Also it has to do with your gears. If you have big tires and havent changed your ring and pinion then it is very hard to wheel with a manual. I wheeled a couple of times with 3.21 gears and 35s and it was difficult to control the clutch.
 
T&ERun said:
If I stall on a decent hill I quickly loose braking power until I get the Jeep started again. I've had a few scary moments. I have a 2007 JKU with 37s and a manual tranny. I know I shouldn't push the clutch in being in 4low, but I haven't got out of the habit yet. Do you guys have this problem also? I was thinking of upgrading to larger rotors and possibly larger front calipers, but still trying to decide what to do. Will upgrading to larger brakes even help in this situation (when the Jeep stalls and the pedal is stiff until you get it started back up)? Any help much appreciated as it's my top priority right now before I hurt someone or my Jeep rolling down a hill backwards. Thanks.
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Not sure if your talking about on the street or crawling. If your on the a hill on the street use your handbrake when you stall and start your car until you get your brakes back. You can even keep the handbrake up till you get start going forward. If off-road you can keep it in 4Lo and most of the time you won't have to use clutch. Like they said above bigger brakes won't fix it since they are power brakes.
 
Got it guys, thanks. I'm running 5.13s. Also, I'm talking about on the trail. I've never had an issue on the street, mainly just when attempting steep hills and stalling in the middle of it. I'm going to check the pads, and replace if need be, and save the money for now on the larger brakes. Time to get out and practice LOL.
 
jknikos said:
Moreover you will find out that with a manual you can do much more accurate wheelin.:beer:
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I really wish this was true.

When you say accurate, it makes me think rocks and going slow..

I'm guessing you haven't wheeled with an automatic?
 
David1tontj said:
I really wish this was true.

When you say accurate, it makes me think rocks and going slow..

I'm guessing you haven't wheeled with an automatic?
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No i havent wheeled with an automatic. But i have trail buddies that have automatic JKs. They claim its easier to wheel with an automatic as well. In the 2007-2011 wrangler i think the auto gearbox is way to high. Moreover, especially going down steep hills, i feel much more secure just selecting 1st gear with 4low and let it roll with little brake. Uphill being able to select the gear i want makes more confident,too. In more technical stuff, ok maybe the auto is better and easier. Generally we dont wheel in rocks, here. A lot of mud here, and some snow.
 
jknikos said:
No i havent wheeled with an automatic. But i have trail buddies that have automatic JKs. They claim its easier to wheel with an automatic as well. In the 2007-2011 wrangler i think the auto gearbox is way to high. Moreover, especially going down steep hills, i feel much more secure just selecting 1st gear with 4low and let it roll with little brake. Uphill being able to select the gear i want makes more confident,too. In more technical stuff, ok maybe the auto is better and easier. Generally we dont wheel in rocks, here. A lot of mud here, and some snow.
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I have a manual too, and I love it- but almost all professional guys are all running autos.

Also- op wouldn't be having this problem with an auto.

I like my manual trans because it does add that certain level of skill to an obstacle, and yes- for hill descent, it is awesome.
 
I wheeled a manual plenty... Never again. Just too many disadvantages and potential problems over autos. I do like street driving with a manual better though.
 
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