Evo drag link flip/C gusset question

WJCO said:
The Synergy drag link joints will fit your pitman arm just fine.QUOTE]


What I was wondering is in the future when either end joint fails, are they a stock type off the shelf part or specialty order item only from Synergy?
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Once I get everything bolted up whats the best/easiest way to cycle the suspension in the driveway to make sure nothing hits and make sure I have enough bump stop, preferably without removing the springs.
Don't want to ruin my nice new parts!!



Thanks

Tony
 
TonyViv said:
Once I get everything bolted up whats the best/easiest way to cycle the suspension in the driveway to make sure nothing hits and make sure I have enough bump stop, preferably without removing the springs.
Don't want to ruin my nice new parts!!



Thanks

Tony
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Removing the spring on the one side and then jacking it up is prob the best way I have found
 
TonyViv said:
Once I get everything bolted up whats the best/easiest way to cycle the suspension in the driveway to make sure nothing hits and make sure I have enough bump stop, preferably without removing the springs.
Don't want to ruin my nice new parts!!



Thanks

Tony
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Jack it up as high as you can and put frame on jackstands. Then using the jack, jack up each side of the axle.
 
Has anyone done the jks dl flip, in the instructions it says to use a step bit. Is that the best tool for the job, would people recommend anything better?


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agiron said:
Has anyone done the jks dl flip, in the instructions it says to use a step bit. Is that the best tool for the job, would people recommend anything better?


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A step bit or unibit is expensive but it'll give you the most control. I would recommend that you use some cutting oil while drilling as well.
 
So I took it in to Discount and had the tires balanced and rotated, , all tires were out of balance by .5 to 2 oz. For some reason my Yokahama Geolanders seem to go out of balance every 3-5k mile, whether a weight falls off or not, Im not sure. It is now driving pretty normal like it always has been. I know a drag link flip is recommended with lifts over 3 inches, I am at 4 inches.

To be realistic, wranglers aren't caddys, so we can get used to the way they feel when driving. Considering the cost, depending on the kit 3-500$, would I really feel a difference in steering after installing a drag link flip and raised track bar? And what would it fix/feel?

All my front end parts test good except for a very minimal amount of play(within spec) at the pitman arm TRE and I have 4.1 caster with adjustable control arms. Over all it drives pretty good, moves around a bit with a bit of bump steer but it doesn't seem unreasonable.. Then again my only Wrangler experience before my JK was an 03 TJ lifted with a 3in teraflex kit on 33's and it seemed firm but fine.

Would I really feel/notice anything to make it worth the cost with the flip?

Any ideas??

Thanks

Tony
 
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Well scratch all that ^^

Twice on my way home today the wobble in the wheel came back. Once over some RR tracks and again over some bumps in the road. Only seems to happen between 35-40 mph.
Though Ive only seen videos and have never driven with death wobble, I would consider this to be a "mini"DW, It doesn't get violent but the wheel goes back and forth and the front end shakes a bit and either have to speed up through it or slow down to get it to stop.

Guess Im back to the drawing board and have to get back under and inspect everything again.


Tony
 
TonyViv said:
Well scratch all that ^^

Twice on my way home today the wobble in the wheel came back. Once over some RR tracks and again over some bumps in the road. Only seems to happen between 35-40 mph.
Though Ive only seen videos and have never driven with death wobble, I would consider this to be a "mini"DW, It doesn't get violent but the wheel goes back and forth and the front end shakes a bit and either have to speed up through it or slow down to get it to stop.

Guess Im back to the drawing board and have to get back under and inspect everything again.


Tony
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I feel your pain, been messing with the same thing since July, started like that then got death wobble. I'm in the process of changing every front end part to get rid of it


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TonyViv said:
Well scratch all that ^^

Twice on my way home today the wobble in the wheel came back. Once over some RR tracks and again over some bumps in the road. Only seems to happen between 35-40 mph.
Though Ive only seen videos and have never driven with death wobble, I would consider this to be a "mini"DW, It doesn't get violent but the wheel goes back and forth and the front end shakes a bit and either have to speed up through it or slow down to get it to stop.

Guess Im back to the drawing board and have to get back under and inspect everything again.


Tony
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Is there any chance that you've knocked your driveshaft and its lost a balancing weight? You can pull your front prop shaft and go for another drive to see if that resolved the issue. Be sure to put some witness marks on the flanges so you can put the shaft back in the way it was.

Beyond that I would recommend going through and torquing all your suspension components again.
 
Well as far as I know from my last weekends inspection,
Ball joints good, surprised with 35k miles, if I cranked hard enough up on the tires and checked right
Tie rod ends good, no play squeezing them with channel locks
Drag link end on knuckle good..... slight play on pitman arm end
No play in track bar..

Since with my lift (4 in), from what Ive read I cant go wrong with a drag link flip with new pitman arm end and track bar relocation, Im going to order that up.

This weekend I delve back in and recheck ball joints, my adjustable control arms and bushings and all bolt torques.
 
Well, I received the synergy track bar relocation bracket so far, just waiting on the rest of the drag link flip to show up...

In checking the install instructions on the bracket, it talks about relocating the sway bar links up, but its "optional".. Anyone using the synergy bracket? Should I do the relocation of sway bar links too? Is there a benefit to moving them or keeping them in the same place...? If so it looks like another attachment point to strengthen the bracket..
I have adjustable quick discos, so if you did raise, do you then shorten them to keep the sway bar slightly above horizontal? Or is it supposed to be raised as well?
Also, If my adjustable track bar wont shorten enough to be able to use, I do still have my stock but I don't remember which way it goes on and the bushings are the same.. Does the curve go on the pitman side or the knuckle side??

Thanks

Tony
 
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TonyViv said:
Well, I received the synergy track bar relocation bracket so far, just waiting on the rest of the drag link flip to show up...

In checking the install instructions on the bracket, it talks about relocating the sway bar links up, but its "optional".. Anyone using the synergy bracket? Should I do the relocation of sway bar links too? Is there a benefit to moving them or keeping them in the same place...? If so it looks like another attachment point to strengthen the bracket..
I have adjustable quick discos, so if you did raise, do you then shorten them to keep the sway bar slightly above horizontal? Or is it supposed to be raised as well?
Also, If my adjustable track bar wont shorten enough to be able to use, I do still have my stock but I don't remember which way it goes on and the bushings are the same.. Does the curve go on the pitman side or the knuckle side??

Thanks

Tony
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I think the purpose of the upper sway bar link hole is to give a place to mount the stub shaft if you have a sway bar disco system that requires it. Since the lower hole on the passenger side is now sandwiched between the bracket and the link tab, you can't mount a stub shaft there.


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