Evo 14" front coiler kit and Evo lever rear, w/o the double throw down bypass shocks

highoctane

highoctane

Caught the Bug
Looking at the Evo coilover systems on Northridge 4x4 I still see the original weld-on Evo front coilover kit w/14" Evo spec King coilovers, and the rear Evo lever, w/o the bypass shocks that the double throw down system uses. Looking at evomfg.com, I see they also have this system on their website. I want something more than the Evo bolt on coiler kit, and for sure want to eve lever system with it's 14" of travel, and coilovers tucked up out of the way. But I do not think I would have the need for the double throw down system since high speed offloading isn't really my thing. The original Evo coiler kit seems like the perfect system to fit my needs, along with the Evo Airbumps for the front and rear. Does anyone know if this system is still available for purchase?

Here is the system I am referring to.

Front weld-on 14" coilover system http://www.evomfg.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=35_36_37&product_id=54

Rear Evo Lever http://www.evomfg.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=35_36_37&product_id=51
http://www.northridge4x4.com/suspen...ver-complete-kit-coilovers-skid-plate-evo1003

Evo Airbumps http://www.evomfg.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=98
http://www.evomfg.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=35_36_37&product_id=113
http://www.northridge4x4.com/suspen...15-evo-rear-rockstop-brackets-and-bumps-1060s

Also, I imagine the double throwdown system could be used with just the coiler shocks, without the bypass shocks installed. Without those shocks, what is done for a bump stop? I know in the rear the Airbumps could still be welded onto the frame, but what about the front? I know this would leave open the possibility for upgrading in the future if I ever felt the need.

Thanks for any info and help. I'd call Evo Mfg or Northridge 4x4, but I work in Afghanistan and my ability to call the U.S. currently seems to not be working. :beer:
 
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is the savings from the DTD really worth the loss of the performance? even if you dont think you will ever need it?
 
highoctane said:
Without those shocks, what is done for a bump stop? I know in the rear the Airbumps could still be welded onto the frame, but what about the front?
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You will not have a bump in the front unless you come up some sort of custom solution. The bypass shock on the front is your bump stop. I believe the third bypass tube is used for this. You can run without it but I wouldn't for long
 
If you are serious about never going with a bypass in the rear a friend of mine has the original EVO lever that he is looking to sell. He would sell it for cheap I'm sure.
 
jmatta33 said:
is the savings from the DTD really worth the loss of the performance? even if you dont think you will ever need it?
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I wouldn't call it a loss in performance. I guess if I were doing high speeds when offroad it would be an issue, but I never drive my JK fast off road. If I am going fast, it's on dirt access roads to get to the trails, and I think the coilovers with air bumps would be more than enough, and not need to triple bypass shocks on the double throw down. I really only do rock crawling and slower speeds on the trails and think the double throw down might be overkill and the money I'd save could go towards Dynatrac PR60 axles.





For those who have the system, am I crazy for thinking I wouldn't need the triple bypass shocks? Is there a benefit of the double throw down system compared to the older front coilover/rear evo lever system when used primarily for rock crawling? Is there a on road benefit that I'm not considering? Eddie? I know you've run both on Moby. If you see this, what are your thoughts coming from someone with offroad experience with both on a JK with 40s and dana 60s?
 
Hijack: Although I am nowhere near being able to do my lift, I am in the planning stage however I am now confused regarding ORE DTD/coilovers/etc.

Could someone explain, I guess going in order starting with the bolt-on COs, the different "levels" of DTD/COs? The part that confuses me is buying DTD minus the bypass (is that the shock with reservoir?) in which case wouldn't that be just the bolt on coilover? Of course the rear is evo lever but if the bypass (I think) is not there then what is the setup called? What is the benefit?

If someone wanted to have DTD down the line is there a cheaper option to start with? IE start with bolt on coilovers then just add the bypass later on? What would be required to transform the rear from BO COs to Evo Lever?
 
Jackal01 said:
Hijack: Although I am nowhere near being able to do my lift, I am in the planning stage however I am now confused regarding ORE DTD/coilovers/etc.

Could someone explain, I guess going in order starting with the bolt-on COs, the different "levels" of DTD/COs? The part that confuses me is buying DTD minus the bypass (is that the shock with reservoir?) in which case wouldn't that be just the bolt on coilover? Of course the rear is evo lever but if the bypass (I think) is not there then what is the setup called? What is the benefit?

If someone wanted to have DTD down the line is there a cheaper option to start with? IE start with bolt on coilovers then just add the bypass later on? What would be required to transform the rear from BO COs to Evo Lever?
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DTD - weld in coilover with bypass shock in the front. Evo lever with coilover and bypass shock in the rear

DTD minus bypass - weld in coilover with DTD brackets (same as the first DTD) without the bypass shock. Evo lever with coilover in the rear (same lever as the first DTD) with no bypass shocks. Bypasses can be added at with with a few bolts when your ready.

System in the first post - older coilover system no longer sold by ore. No options for upgrading either the front or the rear.

Bolt on - completely different brackets and shocks. No options to upgrade to DTD.

If you plan to run DTD in the future you would want to start with the DTD minus bypass. If you start with the bolt ons you would have to sell that kit and upgrade to the DTD. No cost savings and would end up being more expensive.
 
OverlanderJK said:
DTD - weld in coilover with bypass shock in the front. Evo lever with coilover and bypass shock in the rear

DTD minus bypass - weld in coilover with DTD brackets (same as the first DTD) without the bypass shock. Evo lever with coilover in the rear (same lever as the first DTD) with no bypass shocks. Bypasses can be added at with with a few bolts when your ready.

System in the first post - older coilover system no longer sold by ore. No options for upgrading either the front or the rear.

Bolt on - completely different brackets and shocks. No options to upgrade to DTD.

If you plan to run DTD in the future you would want to start with the DTD minus bypass. If you start with the bolt ons you would have to sell that kit and upgrade to the DTD. No cost savings and would end up being more expensive.
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This makes to me so I think I understand.

I haven't seen an option on ORE website to delete the bypass from DTD/Evo Lever. I assume that is something that has to be called in for to get a price. Is it comparing apples to oranges to compare DTD/Evo Lever(minus bypasses) to the bolt ons regarding performance?
 
Jackal01 said:
This makes to me so I think I understand.

I haven't seen an option on ORE website to delete the bypass from DTD/Evo Lever. I assume that is something that has to be called in for to get a price. Is it comparing apples to oranges to compare DTD/Evo Lever(minus bypasses) to the bolt ons regarding performance?
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Yes apples to oranges.

I thought it was an option on the site but maybe not. I don't normally go on their site. Any of their retailers will know about that option though.
 
Jackal01 said:
This makes to me so I think I understand.

I haven't seen an option on ORE website to delete the bypass from DTD/Evo Lever. I assume that is something that has to be called in for to get a price. Is it comparing apples to oranges to compare DTD/Evo Lever(minus bypasses) to the bolt ons regarding performance?
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More like comparing apples to tuna.
 
highoctane said:
For those who have the system, am I crazy for thinking I wouldn't need the triple bypass shocks? Is there a benefit of the double throw down system compared to the older front coilover/rear evo lever system when used primarily for rock crawling? Is there a on road benefit that I'm not considering? Eddie? I know you've run both on Moby. If you see this, what are your thoughts coming from someone with offroad experience with both on a JK with 40s and dana 60s?
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I would say you ONLY need the addition of bypass shocks IF you plan on doing a lot of fast and hard driving through the desert. Even if you do decide to do some fast driving, a good set of air bumps will help make this possible. We ran Moby like that for a long time and we were never easy on him. We only made the pricey upgrade to DTD because we found ourselves going faster and faster and started having a hard time keeping up with Mel.
 
OverlanderJK said:
Yes apples to oranges.

I thought it was an option on the site but maybe not. I don't normally go on their site. Any of their retailers will know about that option though.
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So Northridge sells DTD Coilover/Bypass without shocks for the front. And then a cheaper option for Evo Lever. What would these kits be used for?

http://www.northridge4x4.com/suspen...own-coilover-bypass-dana-44-no-shocks-1009-44

http://www.northridge4x4.com/suspen...ng-jk-evo-lever-rear-coil-over-system-evo1001
 
wayoflife said:
I would say you ONLY need the addition of bypass shocks IF you plan on doing a lot of fast and hard driving through the desert. Even if you do decide to do some fast driving, a good set of air bumps will help make this possible. We ran Moby like that for a long time and we were never easy on him. We only made the pricey upgrade to DTD because we found ourselves going faster and faster and started having a hard time keeping up with Mel.
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Thanks for the reply Eddie. That is just what I thought, and sounds overkill for my tastes at the moment. I guess it's something I'll have to take a deep look at and decide which way to go. If I cannot get the standard 14" coilover kit without the pass shocks like Evo previously sold, and it comes down to the bolt on kit or the DTD, I'd absolutely go with the DTD. I'll give the shop a call if the local phone network is working and see what my options are.
 
highoctane said:
I would guess it leaves the option of running a different brand of shock than what ORE includes with the entire system.
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Interesting, if that is the case. I almost thought that those kits would be what I was referring to when getting DTD/EL without the bypass.
 
highoctane said:
Thanks for the reply Eddie. That is just what I thought, and sounds overkill for my tastes at the moment. I guess it's something I'll have to take a deep look at and decide which way to go. If I cannot get the standard 14" coilover kit without the pass shocks like Evo previously sold, and it comes down to the bolt on kit or the DTD, I'd absolutely go with the DTD. I'll give the shop a call if the local phone network is working and see what my options are.
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I dont remember his screen name but someone on here with a white JKUR did it. Called it the single throw down and the jokes about STDs when wild. Lol. If I remember correctly he was the one who had his previous JK stolen.
 
MR.Ty said:
I dont remember his screen name but someone on here with a white JKUR did it. Called it the single throw down and the jokes about STDs when wild. Lol. If I remember correctly he was the one who had his previous JK stolen.
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sean.m.adams33
 
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