RECOVERY GEAR : A Must Have Before Hitting the Trails
- Thread starter wayoflife
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That's why they had the boats on the racks they could've just continued flipping it over and floated it out of there.
:cheesy: It all makes sense now
Indeed, incredibly average minds :crazyeyes:
munstie said:
:cheesy:
I could see that but a good strap like what ARB makes have a warning indicator that reveals itself if you've exceed the straps operational integrity.
jkjurny
Member
Good to know! I have the orange arb snatch strap so need to look for that indicator.
LOL!! Actually, with any luck, you'll never see it. :crazyeyes:
David1tontj
New member
Like wayalife said, I would use a strap from the back of my rig to the tree to keep me from sliding, if the tree wasn't available, a wheel chock, or even a small Hole dug in front of your tires can work- then I would've used a snatch block (pulley) on my winch line making it twice as powerful and just had a slow, controlled recovery.
Accidents often happen when people get lazy, don't think of the best way to make a recovery, or don't have the proper equipment to execute the perfect recovery.
Ps- digging a small hole to pull into is one method I use often in the snow, if you don't, then the recovery rig just slides toward the stuck one.
Not the whole thread..
I mentioned this in post 55 -
" And let's not forget to be draping stuff over cables to weigh them down if something breaks. -I have used a d ring through my recovery bag to weigh down winch lines before. (The bag is nice and heavy, and it has a nice handle to make sure it stays on the line) "
-I do like the idea of a moving blanket! Much better than getting a good jacket all dirty!
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OverlanderJK
Resident Smartass
Just saw this and it is hilarious! Good star for you today. :thumb:
mudmobeeler
Caught the Bug
When I mostly had reg cab long bed 4x4s and had plenty of storage space in the bed I carried a used car tire I picked up at a local tire shop for 10 or 20 bucks. Run your strap or winch cable through the opening where the rim would be and if something where to break it should be enough weight to drop the strap or cable to the ground. Even a bald tire will work and last a long time using it for this purpose.
I also carried a 30 foot length of chain and used it plenty of times. Luckily I never expierenced a breakage with it. It's main purpose was not for pulling people or myself out however so I only used it in a last resort situation and you can bieleve it had something on it in case it did break. It also saved my butt as well as others in securing an axle and/or suspension component in the event of a break to get one off the trail. For that reason alone I now carry a 10 foot section of chain in case something needed to be chained up to get off the trail. I've seen straps and ratchet straps work for this purpose as well but seen cheaper "walmart" ones break.
Eddie just made me feel like an idiot with the moving blanket idea. I have carried a 10x10 or 10x12 blue tarp for a long time. Used it plenty of times to work under a vehicle. The heavy thicker moving blanket would probably be so much more comfortable, not move around as much when sliding in and out under a vehicle, give the dogs a blanket for laying on if needed, as well as a blanket for a human if needed, and a weight for a cable or strap! Plus being we have the four door its hard to find enough room for stuff anyways so the car tire has been setting at the house and Ive been lucky enough to not need a tug out or have pulled anybody else out. Time to add the blanket to the box, think I might need a bigger box. Lol.
I also carried a 30 foot length of chain and used it plenty of times. Luckily I never expierenced a breakage with it. It's main purpose was not for pulling people or myself out however so I only used it in a last resort situation and you can bieleve it had something on it in case it did break. It also saved my butt as well as others in securing an axle and/or suspension component in the event of a break to get one off the trail. For that reason alone I now carry a 10 foot section of chain in case something needed to be chained up to get off the trail. I've seen straps and ratchet straps work for this purpose as well but seen cheaper "walmart" ones break.
Eddie just made me feel like an idiot with the moving blanket idea. I have carried a 10x10 or 10x12 blue tarp for a long time. Used it plenty of times to work under a vehicle. The heavy thicker moving blanket would probably be so much more comfortable, not move around as much when sliding in and out under a vehicle, give the dogs a blanket for laying on if needed, as well as a blanket for a human if needed, and a weight for a cable or strap! Plus being we have the four door its hard to find enough room for stuff anyways so the car tire has been setting at the house and Ive been lucky enough to not need a tug out or have pulled anybody else out. Time to add the blanket to the box, think I might need a bigger box. Lol.
mudmobeeler
Caught the Bug
Forgot to add that I now have a good strap for pulling people out and not a chain. Need to get one of those ARB straps though as it will be better than what I have.
GCM 2
New member
.....Not the whole thread..
I mentioned this in post 55 -
" And let's not forget to be draping stuff over cables to weigh them down if something breaks. -I have used a d ring through my recovery bag to weigh down winch lines before. (The bag is nice and heavy, and it has a nice handle to make sure it stays on the line) "
-I do like the idea of a moving blanket! Much better than getting a good jacket all dirty!
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Dear David1tontj: My apologies for not seeing your mention of using some field craft for a rope blanket! :thumb:
Now click this link for the best deals shaking on a blanket.....
http://t.harborfreight.com/material-handling/moving-supplies.html
I can't say that I have ever seen one of these, but it is certinly better than nothing and would certainly work for the occassional weekend warrior who gets stuck. More than likely it's just a rebranded cheapo version that some cordage company makes. For examle, New England Ropes and American Rope Company (Both huge in the rope industry) make lots of different products for anyone, to any spec. I will say that NAPA has chosen a very badass name for it- Ditch Pig!
jkjurny
Member
Here is where I read that you need to rest your snatch/recovery straps. First "NOTE:" near the top of the page.
http://arbusa.com/Getting-Started/Recovery-Techniques-Equipment.aspx
http://arbusa.com/Getting-Started/Recovery-Techniques-Equipment.aspx
hydrohut
New member
That's a good read.
That is a great read! :clap2: Did you happen to notice what they said "not to do when joining two straps" in "Making the Recovery".
Years and years ago when I did my trail guiding course we were given pamphlets quite similar and it was pounded into our heads before we were given an exam at the end of our training course. You either receive 100% on the exam or fail.
Off-road is extremely serious business and when it is not practiced to the book someone has the potential of becoming seriously injured or even becoming a fatality (Like I mentioned in my second post where I was completely shit on for sharing the CORRECT method of attaching two straps). Like shown here: http://www.legionlandrover.com/manuales/4wd recovery_how to join recovery straps.pdf and here (at bottom of page) http://www.roadrunneroffroad.com.au/Snatch-Strap-ARB-11000kg--ARB710.html
Even though I myself have a great video demonstrating the safe means of attaching two straps together I will not post a link to my video, rather than be accused of "promoting my own agenda"!! Honestly I would rather see someone learn from it and make one more trail ride safe and enjoyable rather than a fatality.
This is a great informative video I found (not mine) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JBnxSqpuCM
I could go on posting probably another dozen or two links that will tell you DO NOT ATTACH TWO STRAPS TOGETHER WITH A D-RING/CLEVIS but you all know how to research off-road safety I am sure. Actually, thinking back to the next couple pages after my post perhaps I am wrong, there wasn't much intelligence there, right ridg3runner :naw:
I seriously think Serg5000 knew better but didn't want to get shit on by Emperor Eddie's posey of minions.
Kudos to TreyJK, the only other intelligent life in this thread. you were 100% bang on and thank you for stepping up. You are a true Jeeper and wheeler and I would share a trail with you any day of the week. As for these other clowns, I sincerely hope we never share the same trail, I value the life of my friends, family and anyone else on the trail.
Eddie my friend, I seriously hope you have a disclaimer on your poor advice as I can smell a lawsuit if anyone took your advice and wound up killing their wife, child or friend due to your ignorance and the fact that you cannot admit when you are wrong. Like I said in my other post, "I was researching" because I am not about to shoot my mouth off without knowing for a fact that I am correct.
To all the other Jeepers and readers, please accept my apology as I was not intending to "stir the pot", I simply wanted to point out a very serious and lethal error in Eddie's advice.
Happy and SAFE Jeeping to all! :rock:
Regards!
Jeff
PS: JKBRICK That IS better than a strap when it comes to kinetic recovery straps/ropes, it will give you over 30% elongation in your recovery offering less chance that something will break. I would highly recommend checking out www.asroffroad.com their ropes are better priced, probably better quality and they have a kick ass 3 year no fault warranty. (Meaning if something happens to your strap in 3 years they will replace it for the cost of shipping, even if you cut it yourself by accident!) I highly recommend them!! But what do I know?? :idontknow:
PSS: I am sure this post will be deleted... Eddie, where's that door you spoke of?? :standing wave:
10frank9
Web Wheeler
No your post won't get deleted. But thanks for sharing your infinite knowledge. I can't believe you're still here, honestly. But what do I know I'm just a minion...... Good evening Jeffrey! You're sofa king cool!!!! :yup:
MTG
Caught the Bug
TLDR
Hey Jeff, incidentally do you know where I could score a good deal on a pith helmet? :idontknow:
Robar
The Enforcer
He's had two days to strategically plan this rebuttal. He probably typed it and retyped it several times after having it edited by someone else. :yawn37: