Mike Pierson
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Lol, whose sector shaft fragment is that?Most timesView attachment 428476

Lol, whose sector shaft fragment is that?Most timesView attachment 428476
I can’t even remember now. Some east coaster kid who got his panties in a wad. I try to remember to repost that picture annually and with his gay comment it reminded me.Lol, whose sector shaft fragment is that?![]()
There must be a lot of off-roaders there. I would guess that 95% of JL Wranglers in Dallas have never driven on a dirt road at all!Talking about Jeep trends here in Florida there are tons of show Jeeps that shine really well. There are very few of us that actually use their Jeeps for what they were truly designed for. I would venture to say that 95% of all Jeep owners here have never planned an off road venture for multiple days outside of the city they live in much less planned an excursion out of state. Jeeps were designed to get off the beaten path and explore yet most will never see more than a dirt road or a beach which in my opinion is a shame considering all the amazing places there are in this great country we live in.
That said my Jeep gets shined up also however if I had no intention of using it to get out there my wife and I would buy sports cars or luxury cars instead.
Overrated haha.
From what I've observed it's pretty gay.
I live in Indiana, and its very difficult to find anyone that will actually take their Jeep off-roading. I regularly go to Badlands in Attica but its rutting is so bad from the SXS that its not much fun anymore. I don't want to majorly damage my Jeep so I get worried going by myself and getting stuck or into a pickle. I had a work injury and traded fishing for Jeeping. I hope it makes an off-road come back soon..
Jeeping won't make an off-road comeback until jeeps are affordable again, and are actually designed for heavy-duty use from the factory. It is crazy to take an $80k (or more) vehicle off-road, when a single mishap can immediately remove $20k of value. People who intentionally put their Jeep in harms way do so with the expectation that there may be damage.I live in Indiana, and its very difficult to find anyone that will actually take their Jeep off-roading. I regularly go to Badlands in Attica but its rutting is so bad from the SXS that its not much fun anymore. I don't want to majorly damage my Jeep so I get worried going by myself and getting stuck or into a pickle. I had a work injury and traded fishing for Jeeping. I hope it makes an off-road come back soon..
Jeeps have never been more capable from the factory than they are today.Jeeping won't make an off-road comeback until jeeps are affordable again, and are actually designed for heavy-duty use from the factory. It is crazy to take an $80k (or more) vehicle off-road, when a single mishap can immediately remove $20k of value. People who intentionally put their Jeep in harms way do so with the expectation that there may be damage.
Jeeps are not delivered from the factory actually fully ready for off-road use. The exterior body components are very expensive (e.g made out of aluminum). It is common for bumpers to get bent on the first trail run, tail lights get ripped off, body panels creased, and spare tire hangers/tailgate get broken.
This problem is not specific to Jeep. The Ford Bronco is known to crumple almost immediately (rear bumper is even worse than the Rubicon steel bumper). Other brands have fancy 4x4 features, but insufficient clearance, and a body design which will be harmed immediately by even so much as a twig. The problem is that the market addresses 4x4 in name only, and really addresses well paid urbanites who are unlikely to ever go off-road.
There are plenty of people here who are aware of the cost (and dangers), yet they still take their Jeep on aggressive off-road trails.
True. I am mostly concerned about damage to exterior body parts, and the cost to repair that damage. In contrast, most SxS come trail ready from the factory.Jeeps have never been more capable from the factory than they are today.
AgreedJeeping won't make an off-road comeback until jeeps are affordable again, and are actually designed for heavy-duty use from the factory. It is crazy to take an $80k (or more) vehicle off-road, when a single mishap can immediately remove $20k of value. People who intentionally put their Jeep in harms way do so with the expectation that there may be damage.
Jeeps are not delivered from the factory actually fully ready for off-road use. The exterior body components are very expensive (e.g made out of aluminum). It is common for bumpers to get bent on the first trail run, tail lights get ripped off, body panels creased, and spare tire hangers/tailgate get broken.
This problem is not specific to Jeep. The Ford Bronco is known to crumple almost immediately (rear bumper is even worse than the Rubicon steel bumper). Other brands have fancy 4x4 features, but insufficient clearance, and a body design which will be harmed immediately by even so much as a twig. The problem is that the market addresses 4x4 in name only, and really addresses well paid urbanites who are unlikely to ever go off-road.
There are plenty of people here who are aware of the cost (and dangers), yet they still take their Jeep on aggressive off-road trails.