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Fattyfatcow

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Good morning friends,

I have a quick question. I’m doing an inch and a half suspension lift (Clayton offroad). I have a steel front bumper and a badlands winch.

I’m wanting to move up to 33s from my stock Nexen HTX2 tires. I’m worried about weight and gear ratio becoming a problem. Is this a valid concern moving up to let’s say KO2s? Do you have a suggestion as to a specific tire? I even see a KO2 35 class c is similar in weight to a KO2 33 Class E. Really just looking to hear what the best option is that prevents me from having to regear. I also would love to stay on stock wheels (I have spacers) until I can save some more up. Thanks.
 
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Fattyfatcow said:
Good morning friends,

I have a quick question. I’m doing an inch and a half suspension lift (Clayton offroad). I have a steel front bumper and a badlands winch.

I’m wanting to move up to 33s from my stock Nexen HTX2 tires. I’m worried about weight and gear ratio becoming a problem. Is this a valid concern moving up to let’s say KO2s? Do you have a suggestion as to a specific tire? I even see a KO2 35 class c is similar in weight to a KO2 33 Class E. Really just looking to hear what the best option is that prevents me from having to regear. I also would love to stay on stock wheels (I have spacers) until I can save some more up. Thanks.
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C and E ratings are 2 different things, don't worry about the weight of the tire unless you are looking to see how much you have to lift.


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wayoflife said:
Weight is not a concern. Tire diameter is. That said, 33's will cause a little power loss but not enough to warrant a re-gear.
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Do you mean weight is not a concern because it isn’t much or weight is not a concern because it wouldn’t impact the re-gear topic as a whole? Sorry for it being a stupid question.

Diameter wise I figured the concern is there because of articulating and rubbing. But that wouldn’t impact the re-gear topic, right?
 
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Fattyfatcow said:
Do you mean weight is not a concern because it isn’t much or weight is not a concern because it wouldn’t impact the re-gear topic as a whole?
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Both.

Fattyfatcow said:
Diameter wise I figured the concern is there because of articulating and rubbing. But that wouldn’t impact the re-gear topic, right?
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And no - I assume you have the 8 speed auto which is great and I don’t think 33s with spacers, especially on stock wheels still, would make a noticeable impact. Tire clearance has nothing to do with gear ratio.

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Thank you very much! Ideally, do you have a suggestion for what I should go with? Mainly highway/city with the ability to handle trails?
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The K02 is alright, we have them on our TJ still but I’d put my money on anything Nitto - so the Terra Grappler or Recon Grappler for an all terrain tire.
 
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Fattyfatcow said:
Do you mean weight is not a concern because it isn’t much or weight is not a concern because it wouldn’t impact the re-gear topic as a whole? Sorry for it being a stupid question.
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What DirtHeadDavis said, both.
Fattyfatcow said:
Diameter wise I figured the concern is there because of articulating and rubbing. But that wouldn’t impact the re-gear topic, right?
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Articulating and rubbing is NOT the concern. You need to look at your tire diameter as being the final gear in your drive train. The bigger it is, the more effort is needed to get it to turn. Think about when you ride a bicycle with gears and then from a stop, try to get going when you're in the highest gear. If you've ever done it, you know it takes a LOT of effort to start moving. Tire weight has no bearing on that. Same thing on a Jeep.
 
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Fattyfatcow said:
Thank you very much! Ideally, do you have a suggestion for what I should go with? Mainly highway/city with the ability to handle trails?
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depends on the trails but I ran BFG KO tires in C rating for many years. I'm not fond of the KO2, they wore badly on trail use.

I have the KO3 on my daughter's Jeep, she likes them, and they are rated 3 Peak, I keep the pressure at 30psi because of the stiff E sidewalls; the C rated tire was not available when I bought them.

I have Nitto Ridge Grappler on my JLU, they are not 3-peak rated, and it was noticeable when caught in a snowstorm on my way back from EJS, they are also good in the heavy Texas rain but great on the trail lol

I've also had Falken WildPeak A/T.

I'd say BFG, Falken and the NItto Terra Grappler (not the Ridge Grappler) would be a good choice. SL or C load rating unless you plan to be on the trail often then E rating for the thicker sidewalls.

Edit - My daughter's JKU Sport S ran 285/70 R17 (33") on stock Rubicon wheels for a while until I decided it needed full machined wheels bling, no spacers no issues with clearance also has a 2.5" basic lift
 
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jeeeep said:
depends on the trails but I ran BFG KO tires in C rating for many years. I'm not fond of the KO2, they wore badly on trail use.

I have the KO3 on my daughter's Jeep, she likes them, and they are rated 3 Peak, I keep the pressure at 30psi because of the stiff E sidewalls; the C rated tire was not available when I bought them.

I have Nitto Ridge Grappler on my JLU, they are not 3-peak rated, and it was noticeable when caught in a snowstorm on my way back from EJS, they are also good in the heavy Texas rain but great on the trail lol

I've also had Falken WildPeak A/T.

I'd say BFG, Falken and the NItto Terra Grappler (not the Ridge Grappler) would be a good choice. SL or C load rating unless you plan to be on the trail often then E rating for the thicker sidewalls.

Edit - My daughter's JKU Sport S ran 285/70 R17 (33") on stock Rubicon wheels for a while until I decided it needed full machined wheels bling, no spacers no issues with clearance also has a 2.5" basic lift
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If you had to, choose, what you picking?
 
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jeeeep said:
next set will be a 3-Peak because I'll be spending more time in a snow area.

I'm leaning towards the Nitto Terra Grappler G3
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I promise this is the last question. With the 33 inch size, I see there is a E and SL (126 and 116), which do you think is the smarter choice?
 

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Fattyfatcow said:
I promise this is the last question. With the 33 inch size, I see there is a E and SL (126 and 116), which do you think is the smarter choice?
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It depends on how you plan to use your Jeep

If you plan to wheel often or consistently carry max loads, I'd get the E rated and run it at around 30psi (chalk test will determine your optimal tire pressure)

I ran E rated BFG's on my stock Grand Cherokee when I was doing field work in south Texas and dealing with those damn thorn bushes, C rated tires did not last.

I ran C/SL on my JKU without a sidewall failure but also didn't air down to low pressures and I tried to pick good lines. They were a great daily driver, even with all the extra crap I carried and when towing a loaded 5x8 trailer. Never had issues with the C rated tires, just added a little more air for the trailer load where and E rated would probably not have phased it much.

As mentioned before, the sidewalls on E rated tired is tougher, it really depends on how you plan to use your Jeep.
 
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You all are wonderful people. I got this jeep to learn as I go and do things myself. Never worked on vehicles or anything before this so I greatly appreciate you knowledgeable people sharing so the uneducated people like myself can learn and one day share :)
 
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