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  1. XT Carol

    Steeper descents dangerous behavior

    OK, I somewhat suspected that. Thank you
  2. XT Carol

    Steeper descents dangerous behavior

    Thank you, Tree Farmer, I figured I'd hear back from you. I too have been driving since before I was old enough for a license. And with some similar experiences to yours it sounds like. Unfortunately where I am at the moment the forest has been hot and dry, a disappointing "monsoon" season here...
  3. XT Carol

    Steeper descents dangerous behavior

    Oh, sorry. Really just wanting to find a solution for a dangerous problem.
  4. XT Carol

    Steeper descents dangerous behavior

    This discussion is a good one, with the poster commenting at the end he's almost ready to give up his Jeep due to this risky behavior: … A bit farther in this post, one person mentions a couple of companies doing transmission tunes that had positive results. In all the years, this is the first...
  5. XT Carol

    Steeper descents dangerous behavior

    I found this tonight by briefly searching using Google: … When the above discussion was going on I hadn't even bought the JLUR yet. I was still driving the Liberty.
  6. XT Carol

    Steeper descents dangerous behavior

    Just looking at the two Jeeps, one might think the Liberty is lighter. But both my Liberty and my 2018 JLUR both weigh in at about 5K pounds, And I know the Liberty was that heavy, as I had it over scales more than once.
  7. XT Carol

    Steeper descents dangerous behavior

    Yes, try Hill Descent sometime. It definitely makes a bit of noise working. But in the right spots, it's nice.
  8. XT Carol

    Steeper descents dangerous behavior

    Just to mention in passing, I'm fairly familiar with diesels, gearing, exhaust brakes, etc. since I live full-time in a 38-ft diesel pusher Class A & tow the Jeep behind. I think it's just that I've never experienced in any other vehicle what this one is doing. Maybe it's totally normal?
  9. XT Carol

    Steeper descents dangerous behavior

    That's interesting about your Ford diesel. I wonder what it was doing to prevent speed from increasing? Do you think it was applying the brakes, as these do in Hill Descent mode?
  10. XT Carol

    Steeper descents dangerous behavior

    OK to you both, perhaps I'm expecting too much. Before this Jeep I had a 2005 Liberty w/the diesel engine & 5-speed auto transmission. It was a pretty good little 4-wheeler, good torque, HI & LO range, limited slip. It had none of the descending features of these new ones. But it would descend...
  11. XT Carol

    Steeper descents dangerous behavior

    Yes, you are correct. Simply being in a certain gear doesn't guarantee speed will not increase, if the hill is steep enough. As that happens, engine RPM increases proportionally. But if the engine is still "holding back" (no up-throttling), RPMs rise but the reported mpg stays at "99". So the...
  12. XT Carol

    Steeper descents dangerous behavior

    Yes, my Rubi beats every Jeep I've ever had. The first one was a '74 CJ-5, 3-speed manual, 304 V8 AMC engine, no limited slip at all. The good thing was, as young as I was then (20's), that Jeep taught me to drive off-road. So now, in this Jeep, it's bliss. Either the problem we are...
  13. XT Carol

    Steeper descents dangerous behavior

    Appreciate that, I've gotten busy. I'll be watching for your report. Otherwise this is going like it did 4 years ago. It’s a shame because it's as close to the perfect vehicle as I've ever had. Except for this.
  14. XT Carol

    Steeper descents dangerous behavior

    This is occurring when the transmission is in "manual" mode, where it does not upshift on its own. That's why the RPM goes so high, since [when this problem takes place] it's locked into one gear and throttling itself up on a downhill. When I took that picture it was sitting, idling in Park...
  15. XT Carol

    Steeper descents dangerous behavior

    I looked back to where I first posted about this problem, 8-15-2021. As I re-read my post I mentioned that I'd experienced it before I ever had a Tazer, March of 2020, shortly after I bought the Jeep. But I will try removing that Tazer, thank you.
  16. XT Carol

    Steeper descents dangerous behavior

    And yes, I think the "free spooling" you're sensing could be this.
  17. XT Carol

    Steeper descents dangerous behavior

    I just went outside to get a shot of the dash display that shows 'mpg', if I can include it. I don't know if your Jeep is the same as mine. In the picture, it's the orange part that's reading "0 Current" beside the fuel gauge. The Jeep is parked, not moving, engine at idle, thus the "0" mpg. If...
  18. XT Carol

    Steeper descents dangerous behavior

    Well, yes and no. In neutral and coasting I'd assume you'd get an "idle" reading for mpg, but I've never tried that. But it's not that as I descend the grade is so steep as to "pull" the engine into higher RPMs. The RPM is fairly low when it's holding back properly, I'd guess about 1,500. And...
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