Dyno Beads (Tire Balancing)

t8er

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Skip the beads. Discount tire with road force balancing. My 35's are perfect


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StrizzyChris

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A procal or flash cal can turn it off completely. If you have a 2014 with the tire pressure monitor on the dash, I would keep them.

I have the TPMS display on the dash of my 2013, and kept my sensors installed in the wheels when I ran my old 35's. The problem is, with the 13+ models, the procal can not set the TPMS alarm limits lower than 22psi. I wanted to run 28-30psi, but with the threashold set at 22psi, it would still alert because it is "x" amount of PSI from becoming low according to your new 22psi setting. I read a TON of other compaints of this and found this to be the norm with the procal and PSI so I ended up just shutting it off all together. Now my TPMS display reads "0" and is pointless. When I got my slabs and 37's I went with standard valves since the TPMS valves are useless at that point and would reduce balancing issues.
 
I have the TPMS display on the dash of my 2013, and kept my sensors installed in the wheels when I ran my old 35's. The problem is, with the 13+ models, the procal can not set the TPMS alarm limits lower than 22psi. I wanted to run 28-30psi, but with the threashold set at 22psi, it would still alert because it is "x" amount of PSI from becoming low according to your new 22psi setting. I read a TON of other compaints of this and found this to be the norm with the procal and PSI so I ended up just shutting it off all together. Now my TPMS display reads "0" and is pointless. When I got my slabs and 37's I went with standard valves since the TPMS valves are useless at that point and would reduce balancing issues.

This.... All this.... except I weenied out and only got slots. (now wishing I had slabs)
 

TheStick

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I have the TPMS display on the dash of my 2013, and kept my sensors installed in the wheels when I ran my old 35's. The problem is, with the 13+ models, the procal can not set the TPMS alarm limits lower than 22psi. I wanted to run 28-30psi, but with the threashold set at 22psi, it would still alert because it is "x" amount of PSI from becoming low according to your new 22psi setting. I read a TON of other compaints of this and found this to be the norm with the procal and PSI so I ended up just shutting it off all together. Now my TPMS display reads "0" and is pointless. When I got my slabs and 37's I went with standard valves since the TPMS valves are useless at that point and would reduce balancing issues.

I have the flashcal and set it to 22 and have no problems running as low as 26 without the warning. I have noticed though sometimes it will start on, and then turn off after driving a bit.
 

StrizzyChris

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I have the flashcal and set it to 22 and have no problems running as low as 26 without the warning. I have noticed though sometimes it will start on, and then turn off after driving a bit.

Hmmm....Im curious as to whether you have faulty TPMS sensors then. After reading a little more about this, evidently the Jeep is set to alert when the pressure is within 8lbs of the set range on your procal. So that explains why my 29is lbs was setting off the alert when mine was set at the lowest(22lbs.) So I'm not sure why yours would be any different.

I assume you have the sensors installed then...

He would have to, otherwise his warning light would be on all the time(or off all the time when set to 0 by the procal like mine is).
 

GRNHORN

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I have made some changes to my tires so I thought I would update everyone on what worked. Again thank you for all the input.

I had my tires balanced and alignment done by someone that does them for lifted vehicles. I also reduced the psi in my tires to 28, I have noticed a big difference in the over all handling of my jeep. It is a much smoother ride.

Again thank you everyone for the input, I am learning this stuff a little at a time.
 

Chattinfarms

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Save your money they are worthless. I put them in my 33 and it was horrible. Balanced the right way and it is great again


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David1tontj

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Airsoft BB's - been used in tires for quite a while. The biggest issue with them not working properly is when people use too much.

Use the chart from innovative-
http://www.innovativebalancing.com/BigTirechart.htm

Then go to Wally World and buy a big jar of Airsoft bb's and add them in yourself.

the problems come from not enough bbs. If you have too much, they all balance out anyway, but If you don't have enough, then you just have a lopsided tire.

Anyone who has had them not work, simply DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH in their tire. I had 14oz in my 37s, and my good friend has a whole jar (probably about 20oz) in each of his 47s. It was the only thing that worked for him.

They DO work when used correctly-

Having used them with success, I would still NOT RECOMMEND THEM. My main reason- they are noisy as hell at parking lot speeds. I posted up a video of how noisy they are in a different Thread about them. When you are not going fast enough, they curl around like a washing machine and bounce off the rims. Super annoying.




My ride- 2001 power wheel, 11" plastic tires, upgraded battery, boat sides, custom bumpers, tow hooks, new paint.
 
the problems come from not enough bbs. If you have too much, they all balance out anyway, but If you don't have enough, then you just have a lopsided tire.

Anyone who has had them not work, simply DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH in their tire. I had 14oz in my 37s, and my good friend has a whole jar (probably about 20oz) in each of his 47s. It was the only thing that worked for him.

They DO work when used correctly-

Having used them with success, I would still NOT RECOMMEND THEM. My main reason- they are noisy as hell at parking lot speeds. I posted up a video of how noisy they are in a different Thread about them. When you are not going fast enough, they curl around like a washing machine and bounce off the rims. Super annoying.




My ride- 2001 power wheel, 11" plastic tires, upgraded battery, boat sides, custom bumpers, tow hooks, new paint.


I'm sorry but this isn't exactly true. Your point is valid if a tire is only out of balance in the tread area. If a tire is out of balance laterally the beads CAN NOT correct this as physics is working against them.

But you don't have to believe me.... call Innovative Balancing and ask how to correct a tire that is out side-to-side. They will tell you to use the beads in conjunction with traditional weights. And to this; I say what's the point in the beads?

Read where my knowledge comes from here -> http://wayalife.com/showthread.php?...Beads-%96-What-I%92ve-learned&referrerid=6983
 

David1tontj

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I'm sorry but this isn't exactly true. Your point is valid if a tire is only out of balance in the tread area. If a tire is out of balance laterally the beads CAN NOT correct this as physics is working against them.

But you don't have to believe me.... call Innovative Balancing and ask how to correct a tire that is out side-to-side. They will tell you to use the beads in conjunction with traditional weights. And to this; I say what's the point in the beads?

Read where my knowledge comes from here -> http://wayalife.com/showthread.php?...Beads-%96-What-I%92ve-learned&referrerid=6983

All I am saying is I have personally used them on multiple vehicles with excellent success (my wife's rig was a tester for me- Worked great, then I threw them in my 37s and could go 80+ with no vibrations), my friends have personally used them with success when nothing else would work (47" swampers on trail ready beadlocks)-

But- I would still not recommend them! Too noisy!


To say they don't work at all is crap. They do work, just not for all things, and apparently not for all people- in fact, almost all the people who swear they don't work have never had them.


Please don't think this is me telling people to get them- I have said over and over I do not recommend them.


My ride- 2001 power wheel, 11" plastic tires, upgraded battery, boat sides, custom bumpers, tow hooks, new paint.
 
I tried the smaller Dynabeads with no success. The moisture in the tire would clump the beads and cause a bad imbalance. I thought about Airsoft for a while but nothing beats a good road force balance.
 

slowfox

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In my opinion, they're snake oil. If you have a Discount Tire in your area and with a road force balancer, that's what I would recommend. Ask to have them use tape weights instead of the kind that gets attached to the edge of the rim. Of course, if you're running something like an MT/R, good luck. Even with several balancings, I could never get them to where I wanted.

Is there any particular benefit of driving with your new tires for some amount of miles before you get them balanced or that's just a myth?
 
Uhh that’s a new one. No. You get your shit balanced so it doesn’t wobble all over the damn place. After a significant amount of use you may choose to rebalance them as your tire has worn and changed.
 

CalSgt

Hooked
Is there any particular benefit of driving with your new tires for some amount of miles before you get them balanced or that's just a myth?
I've heard shops say that putting a few hundred miles on them & getting them warm a few times makes the tire settle, usually talking about large mud terrain tires.... Honestly I think they want you to drive on unbalanced tires for a while so you know what it feels like then after the balance you are pretty happy with how they ride.
 
I've heard shops say that putting a few hundred miles on them & getting them warm a few times makes the tire settle, usually talking about large mud terrain tires.... Honestly I think they want you to drive on unbalanced tires for a while so you know what it feels like then after the balance you are pretty happy with how they ride.
Just get the tires balanced twice.
 
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